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| Apple, 1, 1, 2023-01, , , , Had to resend code three times | Alterna Bank (Canada; short code 560010),,,,,4,2023-04-20,2FA received on Rogers SIM-based number but not on JMP number. No robocall option available. Apple, 2, 1, 2023-04, , , , Had to resend code three times. Also worked on first attempt. |
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| Chase, , 1, 2023-01, , , , Using number ported from another carrier | Chase, , 1, 2023-01, , , , Using number ported from another carrier ChatGPT (OpenAI), 2, , , 2, ,2023-04, Explicitly told not to use VOIP number |
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| Google (account verification), 1, 2, 2023-01 , , 2, 2022-07, Google Voice, , , , 3, , 2022-05, |
FreeTaxUSA, 1, 1, 2023-01, , , , Signup SMS came from an 877 number and 2FA SMS comes from a short code Google (account verification), 3, 3, 2023-04 , , 2, 2022-07, Allegedly US West Coast numbers work, but not East Coast Google Voice, , , , 4, , 2023-04, Told explicitly something like "number is not valid/accepted" after silently failing |
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| Lyft, , 0,, , 1, 2021-08, | Lyft, 1, 1, 2022-04, , 1, 2021-08, |
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| Signal, 1, 1, 2022-12, , ,, | Signal, 3, 1, 2023-04, , ,, |
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| Simplii Financial, , 1, 2022-03, , 0,, | Simplii Financial, , 2, 2022-12, , 2, 2023-02, |
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| Venmo, , , , 1, , 2023-01, Account signup failed ("we need your mobile phone number") | Vanguard, , 1, 2023-04 Venmo, , , , 1, , 2023-01, Contacted support and they were adamant that they only support mobile numbers from cell carriers |
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| Zelle,,,, 1, ,2023-5, On signup using the Zelle mobile app the app reports the error "For security reasons you have been logged out." Called customer support and was told that VOIP numbers are not supported. Banks/credit unions that support Zelle natively may not have a phone number requirement so you may still be able to use Zelle in this case without a phone number. | |
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Context: https://blog.jmp.chat/b/2022-sms-account-verification
Some companies maintain secret lists of phone numbers which they prohibit for new signups. If you run into this problem, you can:
- try again (sometimes this solves the issue)
- contact the company, letting them know of the issue
- use a different form of 2FA, like OTP (since SMS 2FA is neither private, nor is it all that secure
- find an alternative to that company's services
- use a service specifically tailored to SMS verification instead, like https://crypton.sh/ or https://juicysms.com/ (their numbers might not be on these block lists, but they lack certain other features of a JMP phone number)
Sample of services with successes and failures:
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